paula

I eat on a rotation, with such nutrition items as beans, citrus peel, walnuts, cottage cheese, greens grown in the yard, eggs grown in the yard, and fruits and veg grown here or near always slotted in. No food after 12 hours except for a small dinner of a couple tablespoons cooked veg or handful of lettuce. The rest of the rotation includes one and a half days with meat and salad only, no carrot or tomato, Mega nutrition waffle (nettle lemon ginger, beans, spices and an egg) with neighborhood fruit puree and a dab of local yogurt on four of the other days, sweet potato or winter squash or pumpkin three or four days a week. The rest of my food consists of a sandwich on Friday, beans and rice the other days, and once in awhile ice cream or smoothie, a binge on bread, beef jerky or other dry meat. I don't eat oil anymore. Except for the paper towel I'm not phobic about oil. My best source of fat is meat. I love eating bones or fried whole fish, chicharrones etc.I don't weigh myself except once a month, too scary. My weight stays the same. I try to do strength training at the gym a few hours a week. I walk a lot. I am 70. I have chronic untreatable stable anorexia. I originally joined this site trying to find out how to get my fingernails and toenails back after I retired. When I retired I took on anorexia and lost 30 pounds out of exhilaration of freedom to eat what and when I wanted. That caused severe malnutrition. Malnutrition is getting under control after a few years at this new set point. I heard from cronies that weight would stabilize on calorie restriction, so now I don't know if I'm still on calorie restriction but weight stabilized anyway. I end up with osteoporosis, sarcopenia, too low blood sodium, too high blood potassium, etc, but I'm no longer depressed about it, I'm alive and very happy. Ive got it made, and I feel supported by this forum. I judge calories by how soon I get hungry after I eat it, and how big my belly still is after it digests. If its too good to be true it is.

I love this. Thanks everyone. The low bmi thing is not cron. the idea is to process less energy, while remaining at a healthy bmi. Am I right? It is assumed that your body will increase its efficiency, by lowering metabolism or other method, to maintain a healthy weight with cr. admittedly bmi is healthy at a lower number than medical charts indicate, referencing the rice diet literature. I think 18 or lower is what kempner recommends. Lowering bmi below your doctors recommendation is a slippery slope, as you have pointed out. Not necessary for optimum longevity.That's what I think.

Dean thanks for helping this guy. I also benefited years ago from your advice when I saw that article in the economist about the mega muffins and was afraid to die. It was fun getting so much thinner at first eating only super nutrients until it went too far and kaiser put me in an eating disorder program. I never fully recovered from the high I get from that way of life but I have moderated it enough to stay out of the hospital. All the diseases the eating disorder doctor predicted I would get I still have. It takes a long time to recover from malnutrition. I now have osteoporosis, seriously low blood sodium, iron anemia, bad sarcopenia, etc. I still see advantages to calorie restriction. My heart is very healthy, my arthritis hardly ever flares, except when I eat sandwiches and such, for example on tours like one I just took in Scotland. I can control my insulin pretty well, protein helps with that. Its a balancing act.The best way for me to restrict calories is to restrict metabolism so I don't lose weight. This has to be moderated with exercise and cold, used as a tool. Exercise and cold are useful, though they also increase metabolism which needs calories. Now I must mention the fun factor, the Scotland thing is a good example. Its not all about longevity. Sometimes the tradeoffs are healthful in themselves. I know now when I love some food or activity regardless of what the science says and I honor that. Dancing, kabocha and affogato are examples of that experience. Doing what I love is healthy, and I can honor shared eating many ways. Thanks for still being there dean and also to McCoy. You guys have seen a lot over the years.

An extreme take on the concept of feeding the biome it’s favorite fermented food. The maggot idea is off putting, an exaggeration of ordinary fermentation organisms, or my little worm who sometimes appears in my beloved apple. I heard mimolette cheese, which is popular has mites. Didn’t see any when I ate it. I do love eating weird foods though.

When you learn more about it, cr benefits are from using the minimum energy with cold exposure, but without going below healthy BMI. With practice, you can achieve it. You may have been doing it before and now you went overboard. Many people, but not everyone NEED to lose weight. I am 67, way underweight at 40 kg and 1.6 meters. look for more science about it.

I found this thread inspiring to start today. Other than most of you are men, genetically, I feel quite similar to all the posts. Luckily my cholesterol is ok by kaiser I don’t consider statin worth the risk. At 67 I do bow down to cozaar, amlodopene and losartan for my isolated systolic hypertension. Imagin my dismay in the pandemic after it being predicted when I was 30 that I will die of pneumonia even though my only inkling has been bad pneumonia at age 2 and a low score on spirometer. All my life I have no problem with daily huffing and puffing cardio. so I shall join the parade when it’s my time. I equate it to jumping off a high dive, only one jump each.

Now this thread is about brown fat. I started reading it when Todd suggested the cold shower might be the thing to get my fingernails back. Fingernails are so efficient I need them. Anyway I read the whole thread and I like the little chart that keeps updating the best. I bet everyone does. I like the whole thread and I feel hope to do CE this year for my nails sake. The chart is the what and the why is because I now have to live in this 20% smaller body at least for awhile. Now I just have to learn the how for what applies to me. Brown fat won't help me much at this size to heat me up but there are lots of things on the list that will and I think to remember the how of what I try on there I use the search thread function. I am grateful to all who take the time to share this knowledge of how it works to be thin. You guys are awesome!