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From tomorrow daily I will eat an extra (from my 1850 calorie diet) 8 almonds 10g chia seeds 10g sunflower seeds 20g red lentils 20g pot barley 1 tsp EVOO my base calories will be 2100 hoping this would be enough to kick start me gaining weight, otherwise I will adjust To OP you can do it

added 20g ground chia seeds plus an extra 5 almonds, now calories per day are 1950, added 100g of calories, will increase increments of 50 calories a day till I start putting weight on and weigh daily

Dean I'm certain I will increase my BMI, I have an eating disorder but can rationalise my thinking. Thanks to you I increased my calories to 1850 (from 1600) but now I want to focus on getting a healthy BMI of 18.5 and I'm starting gym again 🙂 I will update when I reach my goal. much love for your encouragement and time you give to helping us! thankyou

Just for completeness I weighed myself today and have a BMI of 17.3 from tomorrow I will start this protocol to get my BMI to 19.5, I want to take my time getting there maybe 6 weeks and like I've outlines let my body be the judge of what it deems necessary to have as my lower intake of calories. Even if you are consuming optimal nutrition, a BMI of 17.8 is still damaging you SLOWLY we can both start this together

you're 25, your body will hide it's weakness much better than your later life. The danger of bone density loss can and most likely will occur. It's going to be even worse for you to judge the bodies slow deterioration due to low bmi because as a runner you must be used to a higher pain threshold and push through any niggles....until the damage is irreversible. instead of picking a random CR percentage / calories, first get your BMI to healthy normal range ... 18.5 then whatever calories your body needs to be at that BMI, stick to them, this way you are getting the best of both worlds, your doing everything science says that will help with longevity and optimal bodily functions. I would say go for 19.5 BMI then stay on that for a year and once your bodies adapted, slowly over years reduce your calories and see if you can maintain a BMI of 19.5, if not then that is your target. every bodies are different. Matt (another CR member) was consuming 1600 calories and able to maintain a BMI of 19.5, he also went really low on his BMI and did as I outlined, increased his BMI to 18.5 and reduced his calories later while his body still kept the extra weight. If your goal is longevity with a body that is able to withstand your lifestyle then honestly you are in dangerous levels, you are risking a future where you start having bone density loss and would lose your ability to exercise, to do normal activities! Is betting (since it's still not guaranteed CR actual works in humans) on fragility and disability (very likely outcomes if you keep your BMI at 17.8) on an "potential" 5 years (if your lucky) of extra life? as Dean mentioned this must be such a shock and takes some time to accept but do it slowly, take a month or two to get to the healthy BMI. Honestly think rationally and think smart. Sometimes we try to bite to much and end up sick from it when we could have gone nice and steady. Keep us update and good luck on this "recovery".

interesting analysis from a biologist

I agree but isn't it true all CRONNIEs suffer the same issue LOL. The things i've read about taking multiple supplements and long chemical names and constant blood tests. I literally eat whole foods, no supplements except potassium and sodium and spend 1.25 hours eating a day. but I love this community for sharing all the knowledge and experience 🙂

thanks for detailed response, yes nutrition is so complex 🙂

-Dean thanks for the article. still it doesn't explain your situation Dean, in 2015 you was consuming 4.3x the RDA for iron with 7.6x Vitamin C and only 1.2x calcium, all factors indicating you should have plenty store of iron yet you don't and consume an extra 1.1x of iron RDA a day (65g iron over 7 days) which implies your absorbing barely any iron from your diet ? Source:

okay but we are not discussing if you met RDA with wholefoods. We are discussing if you show to have met RDA (cronometer) through whole foods then should one still need to supplement, the RDA is written in a time when we were consuming more whole foods

when rda was set (and kept constant over decades?) there was nothing like iron tablets you get nowadays. what i'm implying is surely they expected you to get from natural (wholefood) souces and took into account that fact to reach RDA ?

I eat exact same meal everyday. I eat ~480 grams of raw broccoli and roughly ~480 raw collard greens (spring greens) Sometimes I go slightly over (500g raw collard greens) and those calories even though are minor still test my OCD. so I adjust my EVOO consumption, it just fluctuates within a gram of EVOO lol. but I still force myself to weigh everything, I'm relatively still starting out on CR (around a year so far) so maybe in time I'll relinquish this added responsibility but I like to remind my conscious and sub conscious that we must not break this routine no matter what. Like a daily affirmation to my will power and desire to see this experiment (CRON) through till I die LOL

lmao I didn't read ahead and just realised we had the EXACT SAME thought. Sorry Dean for repeating a question

Dean I'm surprised you supplement iron, your diet as I recall was rich in nutrition, cronometer says my iron is significantly above RDA and I believe I eat a fraction of the food and nutrition you consume. And iron accumulates in our bodies, it causes oxidation, too much is really bad. How much iron do you supplement?

Thanks Dean for the overview. Good point about the progress halt of new science into CR. seems as though that those carrying on are people that enjoy the lifestyle about CR. maybe I'll come to the same conclusion as the majority here that it's futile to go so low, for 2023 I'll carry on observing others and myself. I hope everyone had a good Christmas and new year